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Battlestar Galactica Reunion Panel (20 Years Later) | Olmos, Bamber, Penikett, Callis, Park
Nov 4, 2025
Recorded live at SpaceCon San Antonio 2025 (Freeman Coliseum Expo Halls). A packed-house Battlestar Galactica panel with Edward James Olmos (Admiral Adama), Jamie Bamber (Lee “Apollo” Adama), Tahmoh Penikett (Karl “Helo” Agathon), James Callis (Gaius Baltar), and Grace Park (Sharon “Boomer/Athena” Valerii).
What you’ll hear
James Callis on playing uncertainty and those surreal scenes with Tricia Helfer’s Six watching from the “invisible” sidelines.
Tahmoh Penikett explains how Helo was nearly a one-off in the miniseries—and the moment Olmos quietly tipped him that producers wanted more.
Grace Park breaks down separating Boomer from Athena, why it wasn’t as impossible as it sounded, and how story arcs did the heavy lifting.
Jamie Bamber revisits the time-jump and “fat Apollo” era: prosthetic challenges, summer shoots, and why changing Lee’s physicality was worth it.
The cast on “frak,” still using it, and still being a real family two decades on.
Edward James Olmos on rewatching BSG for its themes of reconciliation, survival, and tech anxiety—and why the show keeps resonating.
Spoiler notice: Contains story references across the miniseries and series run.
Filmed and posted by Tales From The Collection. Subscribe for more reunion panels, cast Q&As, and convention coverage.
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So, I wanted I wanted to bring to the genre, you know, as a little bit of
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uncertainty. Like, it would seem on Star Trek, everybody always knows where they're going, if it's the bridge or
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this place. So, then for me on Battle Star, I don't know what the Battle Star
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is. I don't know how to get from the lab to another place. So it was trying to um
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throw in a mix of uh I suppose like a fish out of water or somebody who who
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doesn't know the right answer immediately like that they're not heroic is is cuz everybody around you is and so
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through the uncertainty or like not not knowing um what was going to happen next I think
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through that there's a lot of drama, there's a lot of humanity, there's comedy, but it comes from uh like uh
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you're new on the battle star and to a degree and also not militaristic like everybody
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else around you. That answers the question. Right. Right. That's absolutely perfect. And I think we all enjoyed those, you
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know, quirky yet tragic yet very human moments, right? when uh you know guys
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Walter had poor conversations with heads and everybody else is just staring at him like so
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what's going on? Yeah, we had a really funny moment with Richard Hatch uh when
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he got to do this scene of me and Trisha and like most people you know you can't take your eyes off Trisha and they kept
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on having to go to Richard going you can't see that I can't see her then stop looking at her
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like it's very difficult
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so uh Tamill uh speaking of not knowing what was going to
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Hilo, right? Famously, the character was not meant to make it nearly as far as he
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did, right, in the show. Um, he was meant to be left on on Cabria, right?
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And, uh, that was kind of going to be the end of it. But then people wanted
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more, right? People wanted more of the character and in no small part because of Tom, of course, and his
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interpretation of the character. Um, so thank you for that.
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But I I wanted to ask, you know, how how soon did did you actually know that they
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were going to bring you back or that the story was going to continue for you? Um it it it took a while. So as far as I
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was concerned, when I did the miniseries, that was it for me. Like I I and we shot the last stuff that we shot
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was the epic stuff in the field where we've got the raptor and the all the refugees are running towards us trying
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to get saved and we we had this epic Did we shoot that in Miami? Is that Langley?
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Do you remember where that was? Anyway, perfect location uh outside of Vancouver
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and it was just an incredible filming day and Eddie was there and I'd already
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signed on to another show. I was going to be a new regular on a Canadian pop series because as far as I was concerned
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I wasn't coming back. I had the hero end that was actually that scene was the scene that I auditioned for. So
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to me it was it was just a great role and Michael Ry written me in to more scenes as we went on when we were doing
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this miniseries when we shot together for like 3 months. Uh, so the part just kept getting better for me, but never
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was I sure that I was going to be I was actually pretty sure that that was it. I had the Euro shot. I'm left on the
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planet. It blows up. There's a nuclear holocaust. Hilo's a hero and everybody dies and then they go with the spaceship
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and everybody's, you know, trying to they go back to the Galactica and everybody else. What's left of humanity trying to survive and uh outstanding as
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silence. Um, but I it's funny. I thought about this the other day. So Grace and I
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had that really powerful scene, you know, she's she's taking off in the raptor. She's got guys Balar. She's got
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a handful of refugees and um you know doing the scene and they lifted the the
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actually I think it was uh our first day he climbed up the ladder for me. He had this big fan and the hero shots coming
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at me. Anyway, I I felt amazing. It was such a powerful day. Grace and I for a
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young actor. We had just like beautiful moments. the extras, everything was so
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real um in that scene. And then I I just I remember feeling uh uh and again, not
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that I had a lot of experience to to to base it off, but I was like, "This went really well. I think this I know this
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went really well." Like this is beautiful. This powerful work and this was this felt I felt so satisfied. And
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Eddie came up to me and he said he pulled me aside. He said, "Hey, man. You did such a good job. they want to bring
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you back. And even though this was coming from literally like this
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iconic figure who is part of the reason that I even became an actor and he's telling me this this I I I took it and I
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received the compliment and it was it was so wonderful to hear, but I in no way thought that that was real. I
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thought Eddie was just giving me a huge compliment and maybe that was a possibility, but I didn't put any weight on that. I really didn't. Even though he
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when I reflect back on it, he was being very sincere about it, but I just I I didn't because I was going on something
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else and nobody else had told me that. None of the other showrunners and in my house the planets being destroyed by
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nuclear holocaust. So it was almost a year later um or at least 6 7 months or
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something. No, it was a year. It was a year because there was a there was how much time transpired between the
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miniseries and shooting the first? It was a year, right? Yeah. is I had
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enough time to do 10 episodes of a new comp show in Vancouver and then go to my first pilot season and then have a
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particularly bad week where I was like, "What the hell am I doing? I can't do this. This is this is terrible. I need
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to I need to go back to roofing." And uh and then Ron, my manager called and
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said, "Ron wanted to talk to me." And uh yeah, after that it was Yeah. I I got
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the opportunity to come back. That's amazing. Yeah. And Aren't we glad? You know, I'm sure I'm sure the
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movie industry missed, you know, a great opportunity, but you know, Battle of Galactica is way different because of
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Hilo really became kind of the heart of the fleet, honestly. I mean, his character just,
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you know, yeah, it was it was an incredible transformation that season two season. Um, speaking of
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transformations, uh, Grace, you um,
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Absolutely. So, um, you play Spoilers, by the way.
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Spoilers, spoilers. Uh, you play, uh, Simon, right? And not just one, but
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many. Two that stuck with us for pretty much the entirety of of the series,
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right? So, you know, I I want to ask you how how were you able to discern or or put a
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barrier between what Athena and and and Boomer had to be, right? Because
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obviously they share many common things and yet they had to be very different at the same time. So, how how was that? How
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would you approach that? I think it was a lot. I mean, as as actors, we're always meant to
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go into the shoes of different characters. So, um, it's not like, you know, on your regular day you go do that
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unless you have this alter like a hidden life. So, we're, you know, we've had practice at it for a while. And I think
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that one of the easiest parts to differentiate the two was that um one of the characters was on the planet with
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Kilo and um it was really simple the difference being out in the woods but
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that was uh it really helped to set the stage and also I didn't have to start by
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trying to indicate how different they were and trying to show you know what a good actor I was. I was just trying to
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stay on the show and do my job and and so and essentially she just had to pretend to be the other one. So there
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wasn't a lot to have to um demonstrate and through time they went through quite
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significant differences and you could I think it's like even when you think of someone in your life you know either
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like a best friend or a cousin you almost have a feeling of what they're like and if I remember what let's say
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boomer went through there's like a an echo or there's like a resonance of what that character is and so that would just
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inform me and just as much as you don't have to keep all of these people separate like what does your best friend feel like? What does your cousin feel
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like? There's just this um automatic like grouping of characteristics and qualities. That is that person and their
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trajectories changed so much that it was easier to do. You know, if they were
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they were like a lot more intimately woven, that would have been um more finessing perhaps. But, you know, when
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even when I had the scene with them two together, I tried to really this is the acting moment. I was really sure how
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different they were. And then my crew member just told me like, why are you making her a You know, and I was like pretty taken aback like, "Oh, that
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that was pretty rough, but um okay." So then I didn't know what to do and and I
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thought I did nothing, but actually what I saw, like, oh, that that was that's fine. So sometimes you have you don't I
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don't think I realized that there was some level of embodiment that I was just naturally doing. And uh the characters
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were not us, but they were they were being um written sometimes towards
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the the characters that that were kind of coming through us, you know, not necessarily us as like the human being,
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you know, Grace or Jamie or Edward, but um the
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maybe there's like a a combination of such. So yeah, it wasn't as hard as you think. It was easy. I think had it
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harder. There you go. And she did an amazing job, didn't she? I mean, come on. Those characters, incredible. Some
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of the heaviest scenes, you know, in the show, too. So, you know, my hats off to you for for pulling those off. Um, and
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and speaking of, you know, the characters maybe not being exactly who you are. Uh, Jamie
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Apollo uh went through this chunkier phase in in in the show. Um
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how uh how was you know how did it change the physicality of your performance right because now you got
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prosthetics you know you can't exactly move the the way you work um so you know
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could you tell us a little bit about maybe some of the challenges well trying to act in all of that I mean first of
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all I love the opportunity it's very rare on a or as certainly was then on a TV show where you take a risk with a
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with a principal character like that uh and you dare to change him that much, right? Um I mean initially
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initially this was the change at the first read where we read this script and there was a year's jump and uh all the
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characters famously you know Ron designed it with Michael that the year's jump happened in the same shot and a
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wrap around James' head I believe. Yeah. that the year's jump happened in one
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shot as it wrapped around Baltar's head and it came back and in that year he'd become
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uh president. Is that right? Yeah. He become president. All this crash is happening on Galactica. I got married uh
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and this was the change. I went from Leodama to Leodama
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which is literally a pair of glasses. Um and which has now happened to me by the way.
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Um, and then and then everyone was like, well, it's a bit boring. Jon doesn't get
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to do much. And Rhymer came up with this thing, you know, that he gets fat because people who are happy and married
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and home cooking and not working out means he's got fat. And I just loved it.
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He suggested this over the table. I went, "Yes, let's do that." And we did a test and 4 hours of makeup. But to
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answer your question, uh, for me, uh, I was always trying to push Lee into different directions. You might notice
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that he did all the jobs available. Janitor one week and then president the next, um, via lawyer and various other
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things. Um, the opportunity to explore him in a different physicality was just fun. And I'd never had prosthetics,
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facial prosthetics before. And Patricia Mar, makeup artist, did them. And I was just in awe and wonder. You know, part
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of the joy of our world is the artifice as well as the you try and create a reality, but you know, we're pretending
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the sets aren't real. And it's just just wonderful thing. If you see technicians do this magic in real plastic forms, no
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no camera trickery, all real. Um, but it was a challenge cuz this thing would sit on my face. We were filming in summer
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and you know you'd sweat and she would have to poke a comb, you know, one of those sort of needle comb things in so
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the sweat could pour out the side and you could only shoot in certain angles
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cuz it would it would deteriorate over time. Uh so there's a lot of stuff to negotiate but really what I enjoyed
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doing is it is it experimenting with a different side of this guy. What happens when he does chill out and relax and
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become sedentary? And um I love the singing to Ed when he's you know gone
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soft. He's gone fat. Um yeah, it was great fun.
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That's awesome. Yeah. No one to mix words. Dad, listen. He um he's not too woke. He's
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not scared of fat shaming, I will say. So just the character that is this guy's
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the woke and he's the wokest man I know. But the admiral, not not so woke. Not so much. Yeah, exactly.
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So um question for for all of you actually uh we'll keep it light.
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How who of you still use the word frack in your daily life.
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You can raise hands. It's a perfect word.
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It is a word. You can use it every day and you can use it if people don't get
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all upset. Yeah, you know what I mean? It doesn't like, oh my god, I can speak like that. No, that's a great word. I
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was so grateful when we came up with it. Frack frack you. That that was that was
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Hogan's favorite line. I'll say that I never use the word, but
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um I had a son and he went to this uh he went to he was in school and he was
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pretty young and they didn't really swear there very much. you know, it's like a Woulder school and but he came
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home one day and had the word frack and I was like this is such a weird moment right now
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but he's not swearing he's swearing and also he doesn't know where that word
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came from the show that we were on and I took mental note of it and I think I might
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have said something to him but he's of course it's way over his head he's never going to um one day in the future I'll
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probably tell him but you guys get it like how funny that would
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It's awesome. Um the the cast of Battlestar Galactica um
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is is famously, you know, still very very very uh close to each other, you
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know, uh you keep in touch with each other. You you actually hang out with each other, you know, which is not
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necessarily the norm, right? Um normally again, what and this is for everybody
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that who wants to answer. Um why do you think that is? Where do you think that sort of family bond came from?
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Sitting next to him. There you go. You know, it's
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Edward and Mary uh created an atmosphere on set where
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they were literally interested in us, all of us younger actors who were starting out. and they they created this
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bond. They cared. These are Oscar nominees who were doing sci-fi for the Sci-Fi channel in 2003 on basic cable.
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Like other stuff was going on elsewhere. We were doing this hokey show that Eddie
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was determined wouldn't be a hokey show and Mary was determined wouldn't be a hokey show. And so they they cared and
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they helped us. They nurtured us. Eddie watched every daily to terrify us. Um
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but but gradually he let us know that we were good enough and that was appreciated. Thank you. And uh there are
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other elements too. I think being in Vancouver we got two Vancouver rightites in the center. Um you know James and I
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were there with our families uh in a in a in a strange city that we didn't know and we were embraced and welcomed by the
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locals. We were Hello. They switched me off.
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I was going to say also one of the first things was that we all got invited to
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our director's house Michael Rhymer and Michael Rhymer and Loretta would have
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initially these parties for all of us so that we get to know each other not just not just being on set and not
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necessarily just talking about the work although a large portion of the parties
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was talking about what we were going to be doing, how exciting it was, what might what that might engender going
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forwards. So, I would say pretty early on we were collecting together socially.
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I don't think anybody could have known in the sense of the way we're all cast and we're all so different, but like
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yeah, it is an unusual thing. It's like all the personalities like we like to be with each other. We we realize that
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pretty early on and we've had the advantage and opportunity to it's like the greatest thing. People
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talk about this kind of a thing, but and Eddie spoke about this as well, how unusual Battle Star was for you in your
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career as something that pulled all these people together 20 years later. It kind of uh it speaks for itself. But
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yeah, we I think it's fair to say you kind of love to see each other and love to hang out with each other
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and love to do awesome panels like this one, you know, with each other. So, let's give it up for them.
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was so treasured like you know James and Jamie had a family you know Grace got
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married like a lot happened during that time in Vancouver and like James said
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and uh Jamie alluded to like once we started breaking bread together once we started having meals together and
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discussing the show we were so intimate we loved each other's time we we really
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ran with that and And here you are 20 some odd years later. We're still doing it as much as we can. Like it doesn't uh
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doesn't get old. I love these people. Yeah. Feel so incredibly blessed to be here. And Aaron said he's not here today, but
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Aaron chief asked us, you know, at dinner after a different con, you know,
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why do you think, you know, you've been on all these, you've all been on many shows, like why do you think this show?
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and um and maybe you guys understand or or I'm not sure how you take this but I said this is not our first time around.
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He just kind of looked at me and he's like, "What do you mean?" And of course, I said the line from the show, you know,
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this has all happened before and this will happen again. And then he walked away from the table. But
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but it was a head on his hands. But at the same time, it's like I think there is a soul connection. And yes, we had an
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amazing generous leaders that it couldn't have happened the same way, but somehow this group of people was meant
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to come together and yes, we broke bread and that hugely helped. Um, but I think there was like a kindred sense within us
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all because if you look at us, we're not like we get along but we're not all the
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same. We're quite different. And I I love how different everyone is and how unique. And they I you know, recently
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I've been telling them all like how how just cripplingly insecure I was back then, but at the same time like none of
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them really cared. It's like and it didn't matter however I was like we were just going to accept each other. And I
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feel really blessed. And I was even thinking that like you know compared to my own family of course you know our
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families are loving and stuff and I'm like I feel like this is more my family somehow in this like odd way then I love
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when I add to that a friend of mine has said there's a like you've got your family there's your bio family and then
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there's your logical family biological I mean split them up.
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like emotional. I love that. I love that. Um, so we got
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the last 10 minutes here of the panel. We are going to jump into some fan questions. All right. And uh these are
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pretty easy. Don't worry. We're going to keep it light. Um, okay. So, first one from uh Rowena. Sorry if I mispronounced
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that. Grace, how did you react when you found out your character was asylum? I
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was definitely confused. I thought there was a mistake cuz I didn't realize that
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she was a silent either. And then I thought later that somehow I felt like that that they uh made my character as
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silent. Somehow they had no other choice. Very confused young character.
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Right. Right. I'm very grateful. Um okay. So for James, how difficult was
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it to fill the scene with you talking to Gada with six all over you? Did it take
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many takes? This comes from Louis. So I remember I think that you're
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referring to a scene in the miniseries and we hadn't uh
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Yeah, that was really it was difficult to film because it was the first time really head six had appeared. I had done
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my whatever kissing scenes in in the house. Um,
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don't try it at home. Somebody could get hurt. Uh but yeah,
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then when we were doing the thing on the bridge, it was very difficult tone to find to be honest cuz you know like the
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whole world's been blown up and we were also experimenting with how number six
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was going to come in and out of the scene which was a lot of Trisha hiding behind chairs and but not as glamorous
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as it looks. And I do remember a point where it was so ludicrous honestly.
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You've got Aleandro being uh what's what's uh very natural,
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very open. He's like, "Listen, Dr. Balty, I've been a huge fan of yours for years." Meanwhile, me knowing that I'm
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complicit in something totally terrible. And then I've got Trisha behind him doing my face and I remember making a
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face just to get out of it like are they
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going to use this because it's quite a serious moment. So yeah, it was it was
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it was actually quite difficult that first time to try and find it all. Absolutely. And I think you did an
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amazing job. What do you guys think?
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Okay. So, here we go. Uh, this is for for everybody. So, if you can change one
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thing about your character story, what would it be? You can't say not being fat.
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Say, change one thing. Just change one thing about your character. I I I think that's an easy one. I' I've spoken about this before. I
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just I would have liked the opportunity to work more with some of my other basketballs. I I loved everything I did.
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It was incredible. But uh I I barely got to share the screen with this man.
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The the miniseries and then that was basically it. We had a couple quick scenes after that. I I just would Yeah,
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it would have been nice. We had such a big cast, too. It just Yeah. If there's one thing I could change about that
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interesting, the one thing I would say I would like to change is working with
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Baltar. Working with Baltar was very difficult.
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Extremely difficult. I like games but I hate Ballard.
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I mean I hated it. And the difficult part about it was that and not this is
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not a joke, okay? We could not shoot scenes with Michael Hogan, myself and
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even Mary and we're we're the old guard, the old Vanguard. been doing this a long time. By friends, from the time we
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started to work together, but James Baltar
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was just unbelievably hysterical to work with. A very difficult difficult
25:50
person to work with because he was so funny and and and you could not we could not
25:56
get through the scenes. I mean that the the the director and the and the producers, they got pissed. They got
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angry. They go, "Okay, would you guys just calm down?" And first they try to be nice. Oh, great. It's great. Okay. We
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take 72. Ready? Okay. And action.
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We're on the floor and he he like, you know, does he's not doing anything,
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you know, and by not doing anything and playing that character the way you played him, it was just very difficult
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to work with him. I didn't like it. It was It was this thing that, you know,
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I'm with you. You're pretty serious. Serious person. Serious in the in the show. Very serious. I'm with Michael
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Hogan. Also very serious. And the humor actually came out of me also trying to look serious.
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[Applause] I'm also really serious
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doing that. It just It was It was funny. It was It was brilliant. really
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brilliant and very very much an understanding of really being
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he was incredible to work with. I mean just extraord extraordinary acting on
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everybody's part. I mean I I I was I was you know I wasn't trying to be nice to
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the young actors. I wasn't trying to be you know oh I'll motivate them so
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they'll you know rise to the level of higher expectation.
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You're terrible. But when I would compliment them and
27:37
when I would talk to them, it was from the heart and soul. I said, you know, I
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found this group to be the strongest acting voice I've been involved with
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only because of one material story was everything and two, the way that they
27:54
all performed because many of them it was like their first job major piece of
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work. Not that they hadn't done stuff. They had me done, you know, on guest aren here or guest do television shows,
28:08
you know, episodic TV, but this was not episodic television.
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This was way way way beyond that. This is the documentation of human behavior
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inside of a situation that ended up becoming a reality which we are facing right now in 2025.
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And that's why And it's very difficult. This is a very
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difficult reality we're facing. And I was talking to some people today. I was writing something for them on a on a
28:41
quote and they were standing. They were talking to me and I said to them, "Listen, you have to hold on to the hope
28:49
because uh this is just starting. We're it's going to go south real fast and
28:56
real hard. real hard because I don't know if we're going to have another
29:02
election. You know, I think that it's going to be, you know, uh they're going to call
29:08
martial law and say that, you know, it's impossible right now because there's so much divisiveness and then then there's
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so much corruption in the voting systems and I'm sorry, but right now we can't we're not going to hold a vote. And it's
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not we're not going to be able to vote. And everybody's sitting here going, "Oh, Jesus head. Can't you get a little
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lighter?" You know, do we have to go there? Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. Like
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just like we're doing.
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Please, please go back and rewatch the series and memorize the understandings
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that you get when you're watching truths that have come out in that show because
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it's right now there 1 billion robots being created by Elon Musk and I've seen
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them that they they they pick food from the fields, they wash windows, they take
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care of children, they they uh do secretarial work,
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It's 1 billion robots that don't cost you a penny once you buy them. You don't
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have to give them overtime. You don't have to, you know, you have to do anything to robots and you can do
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whatever you want. You own them. Okay? And so it's here. It's not coming. It's
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here. And I saw I was in Japan last last month and uh as I was there I was
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watching Japanese television and I couldn't understand what they were saying of course but I was watching this
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and all of a sudden I saw this man sitting talking to this other guy and he
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felt he felt there was something about him and his confidence in the way he was
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talking and the camera went from him and it slowly kept moving slowly kept moving
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and as it kept moving Right next to him was him.
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And I thought it was like almost like a mirror, like a reflection. And he's trying to figure out what is what is
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this guy? A twin, you know, and identical. Okay. And it
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was he had created himself robot. They looked exactly human. Did
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not. It looked like, you know, like the Sylons. They were they were human would
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I'm not kidding you and and I I didn't know what they were saying but I could tell then you they would shoot into his
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laboratory and you would see how they were training them and how they were doing the work. They're very advanced.
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Their technology is very very strong and very advanced. So that's here. It's here now. And with the advent of AI is one
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thing, but AGI is more, but they're now getting to the
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point of knowing that we're getting into ASI. ASI is the end. It's the beginning of
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the end because there's no you won't they won't be able to interrelate with themselves without anyone human getting
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involved with anything. They'll be able to do everything that we do and in
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communication and understanding of themselves and they can rationalize they
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can create they can do as superior a
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superior intellect artificial superior intellect.
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So to me, we
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have a responsibility that have gone through the experience of battle star
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and got to the end and realized that the only thing that really saved us was reconciliation with the silence. That's
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why we were alive today. And in that world, the only reason we were alive was
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because we reconciled. And then the silence and the humans got together and they were able to work together and both
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existed in this universe. So for me, we're into a hell of a ride. Just don't
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lose the hope. Stay strong. So say we all. So say we all.
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So say we all. So say we all. So say we all.
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So say we all. Woo.
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Yeah,
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I just want to say on a personal note, thank you uh to all of our guests today for like Edward was mentioning for
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taking this show seriously, for putting all your heart, all your effort into it,
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making it one of the absolute best shows in general, let alone a sci-fi show that
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we've gotten ever. Okay. Uh, so thank you to all of our guests. Thank you to
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you fans for showing up with 20 years later. So give it up for yourselves, guys.
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Thank you again this amazing battle.
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