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William Shatner Gets Candid on Star Trek, Fast Cars, Brad Paisley Collab & Aging Gracefully in 2025
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Jun 28, 2025
Legendary actor William Shatner returns to the stage at GalaxyCon Oklahoma 2025 for an unfiltered and often hilarious panel. The Star Trek icon reflects on his long career, brushes with death behind the wheel, and his creative partnership with country star Brad Paisley. He opens up about Gene Roddenberry’s vision for Star Trek, the future of space exploration, and what he thinks of the newer Trek series. Shatner also shares personal stories from his Antarctic trip with Neil deGrasse Tyson, his failed dream car restoration, his thoughts on returning as Captain Kirk, and what mysticism, science, and exploration have in common. Fans ask about Space: 1999, warp drive, and whether humanity can overcome fear to reach its potential. From philosophy to flat-out comedy, this is classic Shatner at 95—still sharp, still curious, and still captivating. 📍 Recorded live at GalaxyCon Oklahoma on Memorial Day Weekend 2025.
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william shatner
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hello everyone it's good to see you all so a question
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always is in front of a strange audience you know how do you start how do you
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warm the audience up so i'm going to tell you a story of
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disappointment [Applause] that'll warm you up
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so among the things uh uh he said about what i do is i drive f i used to drive
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fast cars i haven't done so a while so i fascinated by fast cars and um so i was
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invited to uh to a kind of competition
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where a lot of celebrities drove a fast car around the track and you know uh
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drive drive um
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slow in and fast out so you get to the apex of the turn and you're slowing down
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not too much and then accelerate up and the limits of adhesion on your tires you
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try and re reach the limits of adhesion but you need experience to to do that so
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people like donnie osman going too fast down the runway there's a
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an abrupt right-hand turn and he waits too late to put on the
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brakes and if you do that you scrub and you go in a straight line cuz your tires aren't reaching the the
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adhesion and he went up a flag pole and fell back and for years now they've
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played that film to to those occasions don't do this
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so donnie osman has that trail behind him
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so i did very well i don't think i won any
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of those celebrity road races but i i i was up there
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i loved the idea of driving somebody else's car with somebody else's tires
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uh and and doing all kinds of mayhem then one day i was asked to drive um
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help me uh the the ordinary cars that are souped up what's
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that uh the north carolina what's
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say it again nascar stop nascar thanks jeez i've been
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i was coming up to that thing what's the name of that thing what's the name of that thing so stay with me nascar so
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nascar is different nascar
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you drive fast like 190 miles an hour
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it's got a den sort of a blade on the back back trunk which because the air
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flows over it suppresses the back the back uh tires so the edict there is fast
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in and faster out but my whole training my whole instinct
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our our survival is slow in fast out no
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faster and fast out and i won't go into why there was two other people with in the same car and we're vying for who the
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two people would be one is ignored and i couldn't i had to go 190 miles an hour
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round a turn and all my in intuition and instincts about speed was violated
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violated and and then on my third attempt i said
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screw it and i pressed the accelerator and because
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i have been trained in train i've taken some classes in judo where you
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uh uh have your what do you call it your your
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your your guts oh my lord anyway you're supposed to
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okay come
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now you recognize that here and you break the board and it couldn't go
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faster and faster so i thought that's what i'm going to do so as i approached
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the turn i went and i went around and i did it 195 miles an hour i but i
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crossed the white line down there and i was disqualified which i was very happy
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so they have cameras in the car and i watched the show and my family was
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all "watch here's where i the key this is where you do the key watch do the key
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and we're watching and here's what i hear and see
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so the disappointment has nothing to do with that it merely
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wetted my appetite for fast cars
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so about six months ago one of the best lawyers in los angeles
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married to a lady a wonderful lady who produces a show that
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shows you the making like the refurbishing of a car like taking an ordinary car and
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making it a race car making it i guess a nascar close to nascar
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so she said "how would you like to do the show all you got to do is come in and te tell us what kind of a car you'd
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like to have done and and uh and we'll do it for you and then so you come in
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once and then the months go by and we'll fix it up then we'll call you and we'll do the the finale." oh my god look at
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that car and you drive off and it's your car well
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i said "no no." i said "yes that sounds like a dream
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come true i'd like to do that." so i go in and they say "what kind of a car do
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you want souped up?" and i said "you know this camaro that's hulk too." two
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people in the camaro dealership so the camaro looks hulking you know and
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i said "if you get a convertible that would be and fix up i mean jazz up a
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camaro convertible would be the dream
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of mine." i said "done." so they called me and said "we're ready we got a camaro." i went down there
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there was this 1973 camaro ripped out everything but the shell it's
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called a monok it's one unity
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so it's brave so it can uh be solid doesn't rattle
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and i said "this looks great too bad no convertible." but all right and they they jazz it up with tape you know that
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you to look worse than it was and with oh it's terrible and i put it a 600
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horsepower so they said "what do you want?" i said " 600 horsepower engine." and and modulated suspension and
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electronics there were no electronics at that in those years and i want this and i see the thing and i just kept talking
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about what i want you know and they have 6 months goes by i think
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well i don't want to be how's my car you know i wait for them and finally the
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call comes we've got your car and i say great yesterday
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it seems like a year ago yesterday oh and i said i've i got two dogs i hate
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to travel without my dogs can you fix up the back seat it's a it's two door can you fix up the back seat oh we got it
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we're going to fix up the back seat for two dogs and and uh and then so 6 months
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goes by i think well they forgot phone rings we're ready and bring your donuts
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two big dobermans so we get driven down to
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the uh car place and there it is dark
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blue with two stripes unbelievable
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and they said "bring your dogs." so there was a place for the dogs and my wife there
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so we talk a bit and then we say okay
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so goodbye
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we wave goodbye start the engine i put it in gear and it stalls out
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look the big came running we got you here we got an adjuster i got we got it set for a higher higher leg you should
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be good now and i put it in here and it just stalls up get on the freeway
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and it stalls out rush hour freeway on highway 5 in los
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angeles gotch and liz is trying to put it it's hard i'm going to start the antenna and
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i put it back boom it starts and the dogs are in the in the back and we're down and we stall out six times in 20
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miles it stalls the engine won't go the thing is and we i i got my wife on the
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phone tell them and they said i said "did you trial drive this thing?" they
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said "no yours is the trial drive."
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no side view nerves don't work the windows don't work the air condition
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doesn't work the only thing that works is stalled out at you and i want to get home and i got
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two dogs in 90° heat in in rush hour traffic with all that fumes coming in my
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dogs my wife my dogs me and my wife
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no my wife me and my dog no my wife my dogs and me and and and it was we were
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so close to dying and at people honking what's that fool doing you seen those fools on the road one of them was me
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i get home i leave it on the street and meanwhile i'm calling them saying "hey this doesn't work that doesn't work."
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and the whole thing doesn't i live up on a hill so the car is just 15 miles an
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hour just makes it different i leave it on the street and i said called in i
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said "get this thing." and they said "oh yeah we're going to fix it we're going to fix it." and that was my fast car or
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my dream car that these specialists made for me that's my dis i bring my
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disappointment to you
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these guys who make the car are like great experts they i've been there the
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first time and then second time they were saying hey look this billionaire left us these three and there's three
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like hund 10 million dollar cars he's these are experts these are the great
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guys who fix these make these cars out of nothing and they're great car
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i'm so disciplined so now that i've told you my discipline
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somebody asked me a question and we'll we'll go on that thing yeah no you're a
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photo who wants nobody wants to ask a question now a guy a large gentleman in
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red now what you have to do is speak right into the mic your lips have to be there
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there you go so whatever you say for us to hear you got to be like your your lips have to be brushing like so you're
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safe from the guy behind you when he comes out go ahead what's your question yes sir my
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question is if jean rodenberry was still alive today with all the you star trek
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for discovery and deep lordex and everything else what do you think his reaction would be for how it's changed
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years ago i was asked that question i think it was when uh one of the commanders in the next generation kissed
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one of the ladies who was in uniform and and rottenber was who had been in the
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military was so you know this is the way the military works and kissing a fellow
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officer was not exactly how the military works but i saw that i thought that said
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jean rodenberry you if we harness the amount of times he's turning in his grave we wouldn't have an energy problem
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he would be so and then with all the different
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variations of things i don't watch it do you watch the variations of structure yes i do you do why
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series make me fall in love with star trek i still have vcr tapes
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throw them out and buy something good no really what what is the fascination
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of today's star trek right into the mic you're not saying
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anything wow what are you fascinated by the new star trek for me for star trek i mean i think
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how many are there eight or nine or something something like that yes for me it's the positivity of the future the
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hope for the future oh they still maintain that cuz i don't watch
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i'm sorry to admit it but i don't and i and the question is i don't know why i really don't spend that much time in
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front of a television set except watching news and stuff like that so it's nothing against star trek although
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there's something in my psyche that doesn't want me to watch the rest
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of star trek maybe they're doing too well what is your reason for watching
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i personally enjoy all star treks and last night i was actually watching the
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original series before i came here today no kidding did you watch one segment or more i've watched the balance of terror
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and simon earth which one was the balance of terror ball of terror was the
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robins the robin they were all the way through weren't they
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i asked you because it's been many years
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right [Music] can't even think of his name he later
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opportunity i'm glad you're joining captain spots captain spots father that's good enough
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it certainly identifies him mark thank you what is it mark leonard well that's
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the actor was the actor for that so so what about him he was in that oh mark
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was in that he looked he played the romulan in that episode wait how did he
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play a romulan when he was fox's father come on man that's not good they they
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recast him as same actor does it bother you cuz it bothers me to hear him
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i mean i remember it now but i thought why are they casting spock's father cuz he had a good nose he had like an
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alkaline nose he had a nice straight nose he looked
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kingly so that was what a romney i suppose was supposed to thank you so
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much thank you sir you my dear
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right in there i heard a rumor that you just recorded wait a minute wait a
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minute that won't go on no no just put it up to your mouth that's there you go
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yeah let's solve one problem solve one problem at a time uh i heard a rumor that you just recorded an album with a
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country artist and i wanted to know brad paisley yes too easy see see we we know
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everything about you that's just how it is right
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[Applause] uh but i wondered if you could offer a shameless plug on what the album is
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about i would love to talk about it because a couple of weeks ago i had one of the
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great moments of my life i spent two days in a studio uh bradley had in the
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passing years become a good friend of mine and uh so we would meet he lives in
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nashville he also lives in santa barbara and i live in los angeles so between his
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traveling and my traveling we would meet up and our families would meet up so we're really good good buddies and um
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another gentleman by the name of uh rob robert sherna uh had become a friend of
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mine and we be had begun to write albums the last couple of albums that i've done i wrote with him he was in essence a
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lyricist and i was doing something as creative as i could with the songs with
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the lyrics so between rob sherno and i we wrote 14 15 songs
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along a theme that i had suggested which is love but not love carnal love not
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passionate love but love love of your body
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how can you love somebody if you're not healthy love of music love of art love of the
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mystery love all those loves we wrote songs about
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the the last one was we called the great mystery
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and i'm going to give you a more extensive answer because it's it's great fun to
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talk about so about five six months ago i was in the antarctic
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i was in the in the antarctic and along with me and 200 passengers was
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neil degrass tyson whose podcast i'd been on more than once and we'd become
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kind of nodding friends we're both on the ship and we're both hired to talk
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and entertain and so it evolved that out of the seven or eight nights that we
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were uh uh on board ship two or three of those nights i spent on stage with one
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of the great gentlemen that is alive today neil degrass tyson who is an
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astrophysicist but is interested in everything so
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between he and i we covered a lot of subjects when it came to space
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the final frontier we uh we he was the expert and i would
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buy questions with him my ability to talk to him about that was one of
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essentially heckling because neil
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you don't know anything because of dark matter and dark energy covering 95% of
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the universe and we don't even know what it is how can you be taking measurements
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neil i said "well the speed of light." hey how can you tell the speed of light
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won't change neil and he had a tough time we got laughs
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and it was great fun so when i got home from the voyage of about 10 days to the
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antarctic i thought what is the impulse in mankind
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to explore why why we climbed down the tree we were
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happy in the tree nobody could eat us we had a little bit we could get the fruit we were swinging from branch to branch
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we were happy what pool said "let's go down on the ground and see what's there
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you know." and then they killed us the the the the animals and and and then we
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graduated from down and we got it to africa and happily ensconced in africa
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and somebody says "let's go north." the young guy let's go south and you leave the warm beautiful fertile african water
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and you go in these different places why why are you doing that
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why are you doing that is because i'm going to give you a little bit of of
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of a show we're going to do the reason they left the fertile valleys of the
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african uh juggles was because tectonic plates the
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dynamics of the planet were at work
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uh the crust of the earth was changing that changed the currents of air that
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changed the currents of water that changed the currents of the salinity and the currents of the ocean they had to
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get out so they started walking and they walked south and they walked north and
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slowly over the eons mankind adjusted
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to the changing of the earth they adjusted just like the earth around it
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the trees changed ground changed mankind's deep deep black color to avoid
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vitamin d poisoning and and and and cancer of the skin that deep black skin
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i mean it was the same human being but the the human the the hominins were
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changing to adjust to changing nature so the flat nose the dark skin changed to a
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long nose so it would warm the colding the air that was getting cold would warm
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it up before it hit the brain and the and the dark skin changed to white so
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that the uh it did it needed to adjust to the changing rays of the sun so what
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we're talking about is black and white is adjustment to nature as nature all
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around as this dynamic earth was being dynamic and all the animals were
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changing they were faster slower climbing trees not climbing trees humankind changed color and changed
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physiology as a result of the changing earth and i thought well where the hell
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does racism come in we're the same thing we're just animals that changed adjusted
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to the adjusting nature it was like a key of flesh of water
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so so i began to write a speech about why why
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is this impulse for change and then i thought i wonder if neil degrasse tyson
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would be interested in discourse on it and we got the uh daniel fox who
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produced the voyage to antarctica and the three of us are going to so he's going to produce neil and i are going to
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be in um uh washington in
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washington p washington what's the big city in washington so thank you
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go with me i've got so much to talk about so we're going to be in seattle in june 16 17 somewhere around there on
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stage and living
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three venues geographical spiritual
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and medical the dis the the discovery the marching piece of discovery in those
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three places one more note so in my
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trying to discover why those three explorers shackleton
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scott and ammonson who were explorers who went to the south pole and failed
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except for ammonson and there was a reason for his success which was he
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pre-planned perfectly those voyagers became like i began to
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study them then i discovered mellin who is like unbelievable mellin
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was a military guy he was strong and
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ordered and complex and he finally wins his way
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through the mellan straits gets into the pacific and becomes a a a religious
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fanatic and tries to change the religion of the people on the islands and they
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kill him and his mission which was 250 people
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with five ships ends up with 15 or 18 people that make it to england in one
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pattern ship expiration
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so i began to explore the spiritual
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there is a guy and i'd love to hear your reaction alistister crowley does anybody know the
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name of people so alistister cra was
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a mystic who wrote about mysticism and about
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religion and about the will that your will what you think the forces they
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didn't say god but the forces want you to be what your law for your governing
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your your behavior is what you think you're you're you
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should be you should do that's your law and that you should follow no other law
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which sounds excuse me which sounds horrible but if you analyze
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it there it is
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i'm going to pull out from nowhere a bottle of
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respect about that
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one of the tests of old age is if you can open the water
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[Applause]
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okay well thank you sir for hello
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[Applause] alistister crowley
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turns out to be a mystic climbing the himalayan mountains and
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founding uh a kind of religion okay
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then along comes parker frank parker
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frank parker reads alistister crowley becomes involved in mysticism
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but frank parker is a genius in rocketry and without any degree in rocketry he
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founds jpm jet propulsion and he's a rocketeer he fires the first
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american rocket then he combines with
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alist uh with uh with uh elron hubard
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who writes um and scientology big great planet earth
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so so from this mysticism and the rocketry and the and the
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finding of of um scientology
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which is based on how to win friends and influence people you've got a whole
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journey just that little journey let alone moses and and zorastra and all you
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had a journey of such mystical discovery
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and the is it was it accident that part
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jack parker meets alistister cwley who meets elon hopper who runs off with his
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wife and steals his money and it's such a fascinating journey the spiritual
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journey the geographical journey and the medical journey of some primitive man
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taking a a blossom and eating it and and surviving what killed other people and
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the discover of medical natural medicine and then all the great scientists who
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uh made their voyage of discovery to uh thank you i i appreciate that the u
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that's elron hubbert trying to
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but the voyage of of discovery in medicine is equally fascinating and that's what
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uh uh what's what neil degrasse tyson and i i've exhausted my brain by the way
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uh that neil degrass tyson and i will talk about on stage in seattle in the middle of
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june okay wow
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thank you all right so right into the microphone
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hello my name's austin i'm austin that's perfect honor to meet you uh as a man
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who continues to live faster than fear and his curiosity faster than fear
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that's a great phrase facet because we're all afraid i'm
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afraid to step off the stage all right stop you know i mean it's a little awkward that that microphone in your
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face you overcame your fear to ask a question oh yes i'm shaking my boots are you wearing running shoes so you're a
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liar bloody a liar what what's your question that's faster
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than fear if you can overcome your fear about anything whether it's eating some
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foreign food or going to some foreign land or entertaining a novel idea it's fearful that doesn't
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fit with my upbringing that can't be true but it might be true overcoming
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fear of discovery that's what i'm talking about that's beautiful man you
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can go away now what's your question
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your curiosity under the mic your curiosity has inspired millions just like myself uh i was curious if there's
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any ideas or projects you find yourself revisiting i just talked to you about it for god's sake
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i've just done an album that may be the best thing i've ever done with with with a a renowned western artist and there's
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one western song and and the western song so you know coming in on the beat
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seems to be natural right but it isn't
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it escapes you every so often and and i'm thinking i'm an actor i don't need
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to be on the beat because i mean you could go off the beat
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not not i was going to say neil brad said not not brad paisley
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came to a western song that uh that we had written and brad said you're off the
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beat if you want to sing a western song
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be on the beat he forced me he directed me in this our
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western song about being on the beat so fear go ahead ask your question where
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are you going that was my question sir right where is
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he going that's your question no no wait a minute what i i don't understand your question was my question
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was just what projects do you find lingering on or oh so many projects happening let's see something else is
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happening i've got the album i've got the performance i've got uh something
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important tech is saying what
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you have to speak thank you sir 95th birthday 95th birthday
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somebody's playing a 95th birthday 95 god i can't even say it without wincing
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95 years the 95 year olds i know
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what's your name that's 95 not you sir not lisa what's your
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question uh my question has to do with why do you think right into the why do
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you think star trek took off in space99 what
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wait a minute space what 1999 i don't even know what that was no suit
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does anybody space 1999 do you all know what this that is
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uh about 10 people out of one that's your point well what was it about
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why did it was even on the air why is 1999 tell me what you since you know it
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why was it on the air it was another futuristic thing uh the moon left orbit
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and they seriously people were alive on the moon yes and then where did they go
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they just
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it does sound a little ridiculous what did it feel to hear about star trek
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star right into the mic star trek was our future and space 1999 was near
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future okay forget about 1999 i'm no longer i don't hear that name anymore what was it about star trek that
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made you watch it and speak i mean there's a difference be just an inch away from the mic the character dynamic
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more the interaction character so okay i got it so explain to me why the other
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editions of star trek are so popular
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see now i want you to come up to the stage come up here
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and i'm going to ask you the question and you turn around and do what you just did
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why are the other editions of popular of starfix so popular
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can i consider the question
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now look at you you're all you're interested in ecclesiastical roads oh yeah why lucius malfway is here in town
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who jason isaacs who jason isaac oh jason isaac yeah when was he in town
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he's here now why is he hiding i think he's great oh yeah
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one of many yeah but who really
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you don't have to come on man come on
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you don't shout [Applause]
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so some of the media uh entertainment news has reported that you have uh suggested you would like to return as
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captain kirk any is that true or that just media making you know stories for
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click it's not [Applause]
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okay couple of fascinating questions
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maybe you got an idea because that would help how did i get from being underground at
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the age of well i was young but i don't remember quite how you okay but it's been what 30
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40 years why are you struggling
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90s so that's 30 years ago the nex was in the nexus for you know 80
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years so time has no meaning so you might not actually ag
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i'm i'm mouldering somewhere i mean how do you explain it i
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mean there's a point giving an old lady a pill that grows her new kid you know that's the 23rd wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute you're all excited
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and you're a little off mic and so i can't quite understand what you're saying slow down
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if movie mccoy could give an old lady a peel that grows through her new kidney in the 23rd century you know the 24th
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century you know maybe they got more you know advanced medical oh so they would dig me up well they already had okay dad
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well i wrote a book uh coming back and i handed it to the producer i said "here's
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here's how i get them back." he said "we're not going to do it." the last season of bard they had kirk's
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body at section 31 storage house frozen on ice
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no kidding they didn't pay me for that
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$100 so you see the problem here and then what would i do don't know like
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well well you want me to come back right you want [Music]
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what am i going to do teach a whole new group how to cheat kobachi maru
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he knows his stuff there's a academy show coming out i i would love if they
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could think of a way they being the the wonderful creative brains back at
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paramount if they could think of a an interesting way of bringing me back looking the way i do
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i would be delighted to come back it'd be great but nobody's interested in
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we're going to wait until they get older
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[Music] howdy mr sher howdy oh i love that we're in oklahoma
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where's your hair texas
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uh before i ask my question i can answer at least one of the more recent star trek shows is why it still resonates
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with oh that's great that would be scott bulus enterprise series are they still doing it no i saw i saw i got to know
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scott uh some things we were doing wonderful great actor and a wonderful
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guy but he was like just he was like almost
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present times wasn't it wasn't he about 100 years in the future 100 years in the future we tie back in with this series a
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lot with limitless space institute who's we limitless space institute and you are
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with yes sir down in houston say that again you which with what what limitless
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space institute and what is that it's a breakoff of nasa uh dr sunny white was
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one of the lead engineers is it governmental uh he has a company patent now so it works through uh darpa also so
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defense darpa is government it's the defense yes sir uh
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great great uh ideas come out of darpa yeah we look at that show a lot because it's a lot like us but he's dr w's
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working on the war propulsion for the iss enterprise so what is warp
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propulsion i would i would clue you in on he was most recently last week on joe
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rogan's podcast yeah to be interviewed uh that is where you know we try to
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achieve warp speed with a ship within a 100red years so 10 years what do you
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what is the principle so we talk about you know conservation in the earth and
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the solar system so what is the principle of propulsion that would be
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advancing from nuclear to where we have a a system where within a war bubble
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fabric of space time so hold on you're thinking nuclear propulsion
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that's the next step that's the next step is there anything beyond nuclear propulsion yes what is it that would be
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where you take a warp engine in there which would need something on the power curve when you say warp engine are you
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referring to the fictional warp engine so right now it's on a very very very small level very small level level of
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what like nano particle level so you're talking about its ability to be extinct
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is on a very very small level right so so it isn't doesn't exist not yet okay
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why don't scientists say that [Applause] you have to start somewhere right and
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i'm not a physicist in that sense what are you i'm an engineer so but in that area yes sir i was a flight engineer now
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i do speaking engagements to do what uh basically go out and talk to the youth
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of america are you looking for the youth of america to join yes sir the the future yes sir that is a fact and that's
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what the future of america is thank you
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uh since my thing ties in with the space shuttle enterprise when it was renamed the constitution to
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the enterprise in the 70s i was always curious as to what your take was on that and what do you think about this big
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impact that star trek has uh on folks like us well i don't know anything about
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what you about what you first but the effect of star trek on america and all
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the other renditions of star trek has obviously
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conditioned the young as well as the old to think about what the future is how we can have
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energy and uh i've talked to a lot of people in your field and the thing is
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everything is energy when we can make energy that doesn't
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harm the the the earth the world we've reached our our purpose
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so green energy is our impulse we need green energy and there
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are a lot of fields looking at that right now and we will probably have
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green energy based on uh natural forces creating electricity
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and the electricity uh changing water to
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oxy hydrogen and oxygen uh that's my limited knowledge but star trek and the
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future are inbound they are they are bound together
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forever and i'm so proud to be a part of it thank you very much
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thank you everybody
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